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Jeroensky

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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:06pm

Only enigma2 c++ code is closed source now.

So software code under GPL licenses is now closed source by Dream Multimedia. :wacko:

EEh, does the Free Software Foundation know this? 8o
Because it's illegal what Dream Multimadia does here, violating GPL licenses.

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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:23pm

How about the old kernel, and outdated drivers? (with examples: no ext4 filesystem support, no blindscan and so on)
Since the enigma2 developer is away from Dream Multimedia it's all standing still. That is also a reason why people don't want a Dreambox anymore. (not the expensive price).


Huh? Release 3.2 supports Blindscan. You need ext4 why? Who told you the developers were gone, they are still here?

Oh boy I think you don't know what you are talking about! :rolleyes:

Only enigma2 c++ code is closed source now.

So software code under GPL licenses is now closed source by Dream Multimedia. :wacko:

EEh, does the Free Software Foundation know this? 8o
Because it's illegal what Dream Multimadia does here, violating GPL licenses.


Oh boy, I think you don't know what you are talking about! :rolleyes:

Enigma2 never was licensed under GPL, DMM used a proprietary license which allowed someone to use the code but this new code has to be published under GPL.
Now DMM changed the license and the C++ Part of Engima2 is closed source.

Oh BTW WTF is Enigma3/4? :P

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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:25pm

So software code under GPL licenses is now closed source by Dream Multimedia. :wacko:

EEh, does the Free Software Foundation know this? 8o
Because it's illegal what Dream Multimadia does here, violating GPL licenses.
Did you ever read the license?

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The 'enigma2 core' is licensed under a proprietary license.
...
Additionally, this license allows Dream Multimedia to change terms of this license. If you don't like a change in this license, you are free to derive a GPL version from a previous version, of course.
Ich bin keine Hotline, daher kein Support per Mail oder PM.

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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:25pm

enigma2 was never licensed under gpl! so don't tell any crap. your are not at PLi board here.

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The 'enigma2 core' is licensed under a proprietary license.

The 'enigma2 core' contains all files in this sourcetree except plugins in
lib/python/Plugins which carry their own LICENSE file. Those plugins are
licensed under their own license.

This proprietary license does not allow you to compile, modify or do
anything with this sources. You are allowed, however, to distribute
an unmodified version of the sources, including all license statements.

Additionally, this proprietary license will essentially allow you one thing:

You are free to take *THIS* version of enigma2, and derive a version
which will be licensed under the GPLv2. If you're doing this,
be sure to insert proper licencening statements to ensure that it
doesn't get mixed up with the proprietary version.

The derived version can be, of course, modified, distributed etc. in
modified forms, however, you have to publish all changes you made in
source form if you are distributing a binary version. Exact details
can be read in the GPLv2.

If you wish do send us patches to be included in the "official
sourcetree", which will be based on the proprietary license, you have to
agree that your code will be licensed under the proprietary license.

Note that "official sourcetree" just means the version which is
included in the main developer CVS hosted at, or on behalf of,
Dream Multimedia.
mfg

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Jeroensky

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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:46pm

[catfightmode]We will see what happen.[/catfightmode]
I'm not going to reply to some questions above, because of privacy and I don't want to go too much forward(and want to keep specific persons anonymous).

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Jeroensky" (Nov 6th 2011, 8:02pm)


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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:51pm

so was nennt man "schwanz einziehen"
mfg

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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:54pm

>>I'm not going to reply to some questions above,
And I believe it's better cuz you have outed the level of knowledge you have, lack of understanding the previous license that is.

But hey ... world peace! Let's call it a day.
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Sunday, November 6th 2011, 7:59pm


And I believe it's better cuz you have outed the level of knowledge you have, lack of understanding the previous license that is.

Sure, time will tell.
And yes, i never read license of DMM software completely, because i don't(want to) use it :D

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Monday, November 7th 2011, 7:15pm

Dream...good luck with your very expensive "free to air" receivers... :thumbdown:

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Monday, November 7th 2011, 8:34pm

...and I like my expensive "free to air" receiver

Gruß,Renard
2 DB 8000 PVR HD (seit Mai 2010 und März 2013), 1,5 TB und 3 TB intern, DVD-RW-LW, Lüfter, 6x DVB-S2, 1,20 m Spiegel, 4 LNB multifeed, 90cm Spiegel mit Motor, div. Satelliten, aktuelles Experimental (flash) und div. Images mit LowFAT (immer noch), Harmony Touch.

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Monday, November 7th 2011, 8:50pm

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And yes, i never read license of DMM software completely, because i don't(want to) use it


So why do you care, what DMM does? ?( If you are not using the Software.

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Tuesday, November 8th 2011, 12:26am

[Moderator]violation of the Boardrules [/Moderator]

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "floh" (Nov 8th 2011, 7:05am)


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Friday, November 11th 2011, 3:23pm

danke ich hab ne SH4 Box, das wars nun

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Friday, November 11th 2011, 4:00pm

danke ich hab ne SH4 Box, das wars nun

And if you listen very carefully...you can hear the familiar sound,of nobody caring... :sleeping:

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Friday, November 11th 2011, 8:21pm

Indeed.
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Thursday, November 24th 2011, 2:54pm

hello,
any news about EPG "internet" downloader for DMM 3.2.1 image ? (aka rytec xml)

Thanks

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Thursday, November 24th 2011, 3:19pm

ahso als Frage formuliert :)
DM8000 HD, (sata) HDD + (sata) SSD - DeLOCK + (usb) Stick, OoZooN OE2.0 (flash)
QNAP TS-209 Pro, TS-409U, TS-219P
40'' LCD Toshiba 40ZF355D
AV : Logitech Z-5500 Digital

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Monday, December 26th 2011, 8:40pm

Well, why we do not have a branch befor 3.2 to download ?

RG Void

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Monday, December 31st 2012, 8:35pm

Form what i know: Basically yes and no.
The python-source will still be available. But the c(++) core will be closed source from now on. The headers are are still available though (so one can develop c++-based extensions).
I bought an DM8000 and payed approx. 4 times the price of other products because it was open source. I am still using an unmodified mainstream image for my box and technology wise i am still happy.

Buying an Open Source/Free Software based product for me is a protection for my invest. In case the company goes the way of the dodo (which i guess DMM will head with this change) i have the freedom to keep my product going.

A couple years back i bootstrapped Debian/Mips and wrote bootloaders for SGI and Digital Workstations based on MIPS CPUs - I brought new use to those Workstations which were abandoned by SGI and Digital (later Compaq now HP)

So in the end the DMM Images are also based on my works and i gave away my work freely.

Yes - DMM might be on the legal side in withdraw the backend from beeing Open Source - but for me this is withdrawing the _ONLY_ reason to buy a Dreambox.

Florian Lohoff <f@zz.de>

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