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Wednesday, February 15th 2012, 12:19pm

FIX the SUBTITLES NOW!

FIX the SUBTITLES NOW!

Linebrakes in builtin subtext stinks. Do it all from the begining and make it right ones for all!
PLi-team could do it so DMM should figure it out to... :whistling:

In 90% of all countries we DON'T dub original languages in movies or all other programs! Think of that!
Do DMM know what I mean when I talking about "linebrakes"?
Get on with it!

-Thank you! :thumbup:

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VIPPEN

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Wednesday, February 15th 2012, 1:19pm

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mr_vica

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Wednesday, February 15th 2012, 1:29pm

Quoted from "guess"

Do DMM know what I mean when I talking about "linebrakes"?

yes, they know what are you talking about, "Zeilenumbrüche" (unerwartet), can you tell me a channel you have problems with, no problems with dvb-subtitles on Enigma1, on "Das Erste" I´have seen dvb-subtitles with 4 lines, no unexpected linebreaks, are you talking about teletext subtitles? Enigma1 and Enigma2 have the same c++ source core, should be good on both GUI´s

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guess

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Wednesday, February 15th 2012, 1:37pm

To
mr_vica
We are talking about Enigma2
VIPPEN explains!

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Dreamer

Wednesday, February 15th 2012, 6:46pm

On all boxes including the most simple cheap box for about 20-30€ this works as it should except on Enigma2.

Working subtitle:
- This is an example line when person 1 speaks.
- This is an example line when person 2 speaks.

On Enigma2:
- This is an example line when person 1 speaks. - This is an example line when person 2 speaks.

Or often even worse

- This is an example line when person 1 speaks. - This is an example line
when person 2 speaks.

This is only a problem with teletext subtitles and not DVB subtitles that some channels are using especially HD channels and burned in subtitles in the picture.
So the problem is that DMM choose to add space for every line when it should be a linebreak. Please atleast fix that and many will be happy.
There is another option and that's openPLi image that have working subtitles since long time ago and also teletext caching.

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halle

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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 7:37am

Please make this work

It would be great if DMM could support this.

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helmi76

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Thursday, February 16th 2012, 1:24pm

As a workaround you can open the tuxtxt and go to the subtilte page. There the format of the teletext is kept. Only problem is, that more space of the picture is covered with subtitles.

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Dreamer

Thursday, February 16th 2012, 3:41pm

tuxtxt isn't an option. Internal subtitles must work.

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Dreamer

Sunday, February 26th 2012, 9:34am

And this show settings for openpli's perfectly working subtitles. No need to choose language with yellow button for every channel etc.

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mr_vica

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Sunday, February 26th 2012, 7:47pm

Quoted from "Leatherface"

tuxtxt isn't an option. Internal subtitles must work.

they are developing new teletext (videotext) not based on tuxtxt, just be patient, the problem could be fixed till then, I have also problems with teletext subtitles (on tuxtxt), you may try HRT1 on Hotbird (12520V, 27500, 3/4) page 888 every day at 19:30, I dont need the subtitles, I acivated them just for testing purposes and I saw plenty errors, you probably wan´t see them because you don´t understand croatian , it looks like the frame buffer isn´t cleared properly every time, some words are faulty, I thought they just made mistakes by typing them in but it didn´t look like that, on other tv with built-in teletext they are shown correctly

me again: try built-in teletext of your tv, do not activate dreambox teletext, some tv´s will loop through teletext over scart, some only show them over tuner, over HDMI I never tested it, maybe is technically not possible, are the subtitles shown corrctly?

mrvica

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Dreamer

Monday, February 27th 2012, 3:13am

Again tuxtxt isn't an option or teletext on TV. Should not be needed to have tuxtxt running with big and ugly subtitle.
I want working subtitles without activating teletext and not possible on TV either because i use a projector as TV.

2SUB did a good job most of times but is broken now with Enigma2 3.2.

openpli have since long time ago working subtitles and settings for language etc now.
DMM should talk with them to use their changes or atleast fix that damn linebreak that takes 10 seconds to fix.
But i guess it's hard for german people to understand what the problem is.

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Pimmp

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Tuesday, February 28th 2012, 1:05pm

Quoted from "Leatherface"

Again tuxtxt isn't an option or teletext on TV. Should not be needed to have tuxtxt running with big and ugly subtitle.
I want working subtitles without activating teletext and not possible on TV either because i use a projector as TV.

2SUB did a good job most of times but is broken now with Enigma2 3.2.

openpli have since long time ago working subtitles and settings for language etc now.
DMM should talk with them to use their changes or atleast fix that damn linebreak that takes 10 seconds to fix.
But i guess it's hard for german people to understand what the problem is.

Well the problem must be obvious, and now we are waiting for a change to please many Dreambox owner

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VIPPEN

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Sunday, March 4th 2012, 11:37pm

Still waiting...
Stuck with old images. :thumbdown:

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Dreamer

Monday, March 5th 2012, 10:39am

XBMC PVR is coming to other boxes soon so then there is no reason to buy Dramboxes with crappy closed Enigma2 code that can't handle subtitles.
Until then i recomend everyone to use openpli's repository.

http://openpli.git.sourceforge.net/git/g…gma2;a=shortlog

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Mavve

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Sunday, March 11th 2012, 7:39pm

any progress in this case? can someone tell us if someone are working on this bug?

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Stefan60

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Wednesday, March 14th 2012, 11:40am

I still do not believe that the German people understand what we're talking about .. very strange.
How hard can it be? attach a great example.

google translation into German.
Google-Übersetzung ins Deutsche.
Ich weiß immer noch nicht glauben, daß das deutsche Volk zu verstehen, was wir reden .. sehr seltsam.
Wie schwer kann es sein? legen ein gutes Beispiel.

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Reichi

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Wednesday, March 14th 2012, 1:40pm

Hi,

while the screenshots are very obvious it's hard to reproduce that without the actual source (video)material.
Could you:

Record something with "broken" subtitles using your Dreambox
AND "send" us that recording with a screenshot of what the subtitles should look like?

That would really help a lot.

PS: Feel free to upload a short piece to some sharehoster and just send me the url via PM.
PPS: We REALLY do not have a lot of subtitles in germany and simply cannot reproduce it (unlike in nordic countries basically everything you can watch on german television is dubbed).

mfg ,
Reichi

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